我在這裡很少上載英文文章,不過因為防彈少年團剛在5月20日在Billboard Music Award演出及得獎,在美國娛樂媒體或一般電視觀眾造成很大回響,他們最常見的疑問,就是不明白為何防彈在美國這麼受歡迎?為何防彈的飯圈阿米這麼瘋狂地支援防彈。
我在推特看到這些疑問及一些海外阿米的回應(一般都是說他們七個很努力,自己創作歌曲等等不太能說服到外人的表面答案,老實說,那有完全不努力的藝人,而且西方已習慣了歌手應該要參與製作歌曲)。我受不了這種問與答都觸不到癢處的來來回回,昨晚就寫下這篇放在推特。我明白來看這部落格的華語阿米,可能不會完全看得懂,但都希望你們盡量嘗試看,不要因為是英語就自動關閉,阿米這個全球飯圈需要大家更努力互相了解及體諒。我不是站姐不拍照不辦團購亦無能力做翻譯,我做飯能做到的,就只是偶爾在這裡那裡寫一點點,希望東西方的阿米更了解對方。
另外各位不是阿米的舊讀者,看下這篇可能會明白一點為何我這個中年婦會迷上這個韓團。
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People
that don’t understand the hype of BTS is because they don’t understand BTS is
not just an idol group for ARMY to fangirl (or fanboy). A more accurate
comparison would be: BTS and its fandom is a religion, or a social movement, or
even a cult, but just without the usual hypocrisy combo. That’s why ARMY are a lot more
motivated to do collective actions to support or represent the group, than maybe
any other boy band fandoms before them. Let me explain further.
I
will ignore the fact that their music is not in some universal language like
English first, because obviously there is something more profound and
overpowering for people of all ages, all races, from different corners of the
world to be motivated, to look for and understand their songs, watch videos with
subtitles and so on.
What
were some common factors for successful boy bands in the past? Good looks, catchy songs, some could dance, and
the illusion of creating a fantasy for mostly female fans to daydream
about. BTS has it all and does it
better. They pay attention to how they look, what they wear, they write and
produce their own songs, their choreography and stage presence is insane, and
they make sure the only fantasy you may even have is among the members
themselves.
What
drove the general public away from idols/boy bands in the past? Mostly bad personal conducts,
like sleeping around, hiring hookers, doing drugs, drunk driving, bad attitude
to fans, the media or the public (on or off cameras), or internal conflicts among members that drove the fandom apart.
BTS does none of those, you can say it's luck because they all had good
parenting and grew up decent, or you can say their company picked the right
kids to begin with. They are so careful with what they do and what they say because very
early on, they realized what possible consequence of even a slight hiccup in public image
could do to their success.
And
yes, obviously social media contributed to their success globally. But social media has been around way longer
than their existence, so why was only BTS successful in utilizing it? Don’t forget, social media is “just”, and
always will be “just” a channel. It’s
the CONTENT you push through the channel that makes the difference. Most celebrities use social media as a one
way promotion outlet, they feed you stuff they want to promote and that’s it,
exactly like a media outlet. In a group
level, BTS use social media as a communication tool to their fans. When you
use it to “communicate”, it’s always two ways, or multiple ways. They tell you
what they are doing, where they are going, what music they listen to, what
they’re wearing, or jokes or shenanigans among members. It’s like you’re in their family chat
room. In a corporate level, Big Hit
makes sure you know how hard the kids work, pretty much everything they do and
present to the public, there will be a behind the scene footage of how everything is done. The extend and generosity of the amount of
behind the scene footage is insane. No
one is saying other KPOP groups or western groups don’t work as hard, but you
don’t know about it because it’s not shown. That’s how smart Big Hit is. From
the hundreds of hours of footage, you also get to know the members at a
personal level, when they are goofing around, or getting ad lip interviews, you
get to see each personality, the dynamics between the members, and most important
of all, their strong bond and friendship.
It’s like watching a feel good sitcom with no season ending. In a way,
they could do this endless hours of behind the scene filming without hesitation is also because these kids are genuinely nice
kids with good heads on their shoulders, it’s easy to trust them and show them off, on or off cameras.
Another
important factors to draw fans in, is the positivity of their music productions. In this day and age, be it in politics or youth or other social issues, cynicism and helplessness penetrate to the core of all
generations. BTS comes out being all critical,
but also at the very same time, “not” cynical.
Just bitching and mourning about everything can only get you to a
certain point. However, being insightful
and critical of reality, but still wanting to search for a light in the tunnel,
gives people hope. Remember how Obama motivated people just with the notion of
“hope”? It’s not like there aren’t
singer song writers who are critical of the world, or there aren’t feel good
singers that only want to make cheer up “safe” songs. But you go out and try to find one that does BOTH on their own, and does it well with catchy tunes and insane
choreography.
People
in the western world don’t understand BTS hype or sudden popularity, I get
that, because just from a few songs they watch on TV or hear in radio, you
won’t get what the hype is all about. Why are the fans
so insane, so motivated? Because to ARMY, it’s never just about the songs.
It’s the whole package. It’s also
the sense of community we have within the fandom, across the globe. How many boy groups in the history of boy
groups can you say the artist and the fandom trust each other and genuinely
care for each other? Devote their time to make sure the others get what they want or dream of? (You try to find some
other boy bands or artist who would ditch AMA or BBMA after parties just to
rush back to the hotel rooms to do a live chat with fans, or spend weeks or
even months in their insane schedule to come up with a debut anniversary
program with free songs and performances every year just to thank fans.) How many fandoms in the history of fandoms
try so hard to represent their idols in a positive light and not do anything to
get their idols in trouble or bad press?
If it’s just catchy tunes and great dance, or cute faces, I don’t think
it will do the trick. It’s because BTS
has no fault, no bad angle, nothing negative in every aspect, which motivate
the fandom to do what they do. Yes, that certainly includes loud fan chants when they perform live because we know it will make them
less nervous in western prestigious awards shows.
Stanning
BTS is NOT just about fangirling cute faces and catchy tunes, it’s also a
SOCIAL MOVEMENT to stand up for social justice, believe in self love, tolerance, hard work
and sincerity. That’s why ARMY are so
motivated to support them, more than any idols before them. If the western media, or any media will just
pay a little more attention, do better research, or … ask the right fan, then they
wouldn’t need to keep asking what the hype is all about. BTS and its ARMY, are here to stay.
Dear Ceci,
回覆刪除真的很喜歡您這篇文章, 之前我都是用中文回覆。這次請讓我用英文表達我對BTS對我的正面影響。
I totally agree with you. I grew up in different countries all over the world with different cultures, thus different religions. With critical thinking, I came to a conclusion that I am a free thinker for many years. As a person coming from a scientific background, I identify with your description of BTS being like a religion or social movement. I have been deriving the same sense of satisfaction for supporting and liking BTS compared to the feeling I had when I used to have a religion. I have been a Kpop fan for more than 20 years, I listen to a wide variety of music including western music, jazz, classical music, house etc....just to name a few. But BTS is the first artist that I truly feel a connection with, just like a family or more than a family member which I do not even see often. To me they are more than a religion, because they do not scare you for not following them with some stories but with the support of knowing them walking the same path as you, knowing they also suffer like us, it makes me identify with them even more and relish the fact that we can walk the path of 'Life" and grow together.
Most importantly they taught their fandom to "LOVE YOURSELF" and to spread the love around, this is like the butterfly effect. A small gesture can change this world for a little better, but with the cumulative kind acts it becomes a significant "Social movement"-quoting from you. I can continue to list down all the positive effects that BTS has had on me but the post will be too long. I am just thankful that I found BTS and like what RM said nothing last forever, but JK said they will be in the same place waiting for us. They are the magic shop to us and the bring out the best of me. We are definitely here to stay and will continue to rise even higher as their "wings"(ARMYs) become even bigger. Sky is not even the limit, we are the galaxy to each other.
P.S. I am waiting for tonight's Comeback on Mnet, the camera work will be better :P
其實如果只是說音樂製作質素及水準,真的老實說,全球樂壇比防彈好的大有人在,只是靠音樂亦應該不能建起這麼強大及投入的飯圈,而最多可能只會像是Adele那樣有很多音飯。但防飯的飯不是音飯而是鐵飯狂飯,這裡面一定包括了其他更深入、更能令飯感動的元素在內。這人與人關係的元素,是現時西方傳媒不可能了解的事,而他們外交見到的,就只是數以百計千計的少女瘋狂尖叫的場面,所以我也不怪他們現在只有很片面及偏頗的報導,只希望防彈的名字開始熟悉後,會有起碼一少部份的記者朋友會拿多點誠意做多點功課,去報導有關防彈及阿米的消息。
刪除This is absolutely fantastic. Hands down your point about BTS' music being critical but not cynical is the best reason, one of which I've never really been able to articulate myself! Perhaps another reason that relates more closely to me as a young adult (still wanna call myself a teenager haha) is not simply because of their lyrics but also knowing the fact that we're on the same boat, trying to sail through life. Whenever I get demotivated, I'm reminded of how insanely hard they work to achieve their goals, then I'm driven to do the same.
回覆刪除When I first looked at the lyrics of 'Magic Shop', I bawled my eyes out (woah I'm really saying this). It was the kind of comfort and encouragement I desperately needed. It feels so nice to know that there's someone out there cheering you on and have been through/is still going the same thing. Like RM said, BTS is ARMYs' fans, just as much as we are theirs. They are silently supporting us through our "personal battles and loneliness in life". We are their hope, just as much as they are to us.
This is the lengthiest reply I've written in a while! Thank you sososososo much for writing and sharing this :)
我很明白年輕一代,在防彈歌曲裡找到共鳴,找到慰藉的感覺,但我自己是非常非常之少數,從來沒有在他們的歌詞上,覺得身同感受或有同感的阿米。他們對青春對成長的掙扎、焦慮與徬徨,或對外在環境的控制及無助,對我自己來說,都不是新鮮或特別深思的事,因為我可能在二三十年前青春期時,已經了解及經歷過所有,我亦不需要他們的提醒去明白Love Myself的重要性及如何love myself。如果有聽過80/90年代音樂的人,都會知道那時候的歌,也是非常警世及有內涵的。不過自千禧年之後,流行音樂變得表面化,feel good化,令整整一代年輕人無機會從音樂得到更深層又有慰藉的啟發,才會對防彈這麼趨之若鶩。所以在我個人而言,防彈的歌詞,雖然是有質素的,但不是令我成飯的原因。(如果有興趣,可以找80年代香港組合“達明一派”作品的歌詞看看。)
刪除而且我是一個很冷靜很理性的人,在網上時常見到阿米們說看到什麼會哭起來,我真的未試過亦想像不來,心會想“有那麼容易就哭嗎?是否太誇張?” 我是一般只會看新聞見到人的受難或戰爭的苦難才有機會哭的人。要我因為飯偶像受感動而哭,我自己是沒可能做到的。我是一個心靈比較強壯,自我康復能力好好的人,不需要外在的元素幫助自己。不過,如果其他飯(尤其是年輕一代的飯),因為防彈得到慰藉,這也是很好的事。
我從前也是個不飯韓團甚至有點排斥,只聽日本獨立樂團的粉絲,從不知迷偶像為何物的人哈哈哈
回覆刪除自從我開始接觸韓綜及戲劇後,慢慢進一步去聽KPOP,但也只是停在欣賞音樂這塊而已,
從我真正開始接觸到防彈的時候,也是前年底的事,那時我已被血汗淚圈飯,但卻不知道演唱者是誰,也漠不關心。 (當時我只想著哇!! 這首西洋樂真好聽 哈哈哈)
直至後來偶然看了偶像會上的綜藝節目,看著大笑紓壓時,挑著挑著就默默地看到防彈篇,
那時只覺得這團真好笑,舞蹈真厲害,所以我就在水管上點開了練習室,然後我又點開了一集集的BOMB....... 殊不知這就是跌進萬惡防彈坑的起頭哈哈哈哈
開始我曾一度懷疑這是不是公司給的人設,團魂什麼的,感情是真的這麼好嗎?
最初我是被16年MAMA開場的智旻給圈飯,我對歌曲與團員也沒有去仔細研究,心想著也跟其他男團差不多吧 就是幾首歌好聽,舞好看所以很多粉絲,但這些想法到後面真的是狠狠的被防彈打臉哈
覺得大黑對他們的信任加上放養(?),使他們成為一個打破現有KPOP環境的團體,七人要有共識,要對音樂有多大熱情才有辦法在韓國演藝界這樣的環境下咬牙撐著,而難能可貴的是,當享受到了名氣與財富後而不被沖昏頭,還是只想著做好本質,這樣的想法在充滿誘惑的環境裡真的不簡單。
聽過多數評價他們音樂的人說他們變了,只想迎接主流、沒保持初衷等等的話,在上張迷你專開始嘗試不同風格的時候,我也聽到許多聲音,這次的音樂真糟一點都不防彈,為什麼要轉換風格呢,以前的風格不是挺好的嗎,還是比較喜歡以前的歌等等的評價;這些話語不禁讓人開始反思,什麼叫做初衷、什麼是初心,一成不變難道就能代表這是初心嗎? 但我想這些問題,他們肯定思考的比大眾還多。
有時我也常在想為何我會這麼迷防彈的原因,音樂雖是本體,但重點還是他們帶給我的歡樂與慰藉,像南俊所說"如果他們的存在,能使我們的痛苦傷痛減少,那怕只是一點點,能從100減到99、98,那他們的存在就有意義了"這話聽在別人耳裡可能無感,但對部分人來說卻是溫暖安慰的話語。
以前當我聽到別人批評,都幾歲了還迷韓團還做迷妹,迷韓團的人就是沒救等這種刻板偏見,
我會生氣想反駁,但現在聽到這些話,心理雖說還是有些不平衡,可是我卻過得很快樂,面對未曾瞭解過就帶著刻板與偏見批評的人,他們會因為偏見而錯失掉了很多美好的事物。臺灣傳統社會受中國文化影響,大部分的人從小就是生長在傳統家庭裡,以前我的刻板印象很重,常帶著先入為主的觀念去看待很多事,雖然要真的百分百不帶任何偏見與刻板去面對是不可能的事,可是如果能慢慢從部分開始,這何嘗不是一個好的開始呢,至少我有去嘗試了
你說出了我的想法啊~
刪除我也是第一次迷韓團的姨妹?(母
“聽過多數評價他們音樂的人說他們變了.......還是比較喜歡以前的歌等等的評價"
刪除那些是什麼人有資格去評價?他(她)們自己對音樂整體,或對防彈的音樂,有多認識?
什麼是防彈的的音樂風格?除了防彈及大黑的音樂監製外,究竟有幾多人可以說得出?如果只是以他們學校三部曲及Dark & Wild,就將防彈綁死在hip hop的層面,那之後花樣年華三部已經是脫離防彈風格。再說非常前期,大家又起愛的作品I Like It, Blanket Kick, Just One day等等又算什麼?之後Dope及Fire那又算不算脫離原有風格?因為已經開始強烈用Trap了。如果只是因為批評防彈在Wings及Love Yourself Her,開始脫離防彈風格,那只是這些人自己不喜歡EDM而已(包括我),跟防彈是否脫離所謂防彈風格根本沒關係。現在LT Tear又大大減低了trap/EDM,走回R&B甚至有點blues及jazz的,那又算什麼?
我寫以上這麼多,只是想shut up時常說防彈音樂脫離原有風格的一批不懂音樂的人。防彈的音樂風格歷程,從來沒有說只局防於hip hop(雖然他們一出道時是想以偏hip hop風而出道)。如果有一個確定的元素是所謂之“防彈的音樂風格”,就只有“防彈的歌詞”罷了,有一天如果防彈作品的歌詞不再真摰,只是大路迎合普羅大眾,那時候大家才出來批評吧。另外亦都希望阿米可以接受,防彈不停轉曲風,那正正就是防彈的風格。
我自己也是最喜歡防彈初期hip hop風較強的歌曲,但我很清楚這只是我個人的音樂口味,不會將之定性為防彈的風格。防彈都已經脫離hip hop多少年了?出道五年只有首年一年多是重hip hop,自I Need You已經完全不是那回事,如果有阿米到現在作活在那自製的氣泡中,那就去找其他團飯吧。
Rant over!
完全我的心聲阿哈哈哈
刪除我雖然晚入坑(去年初),但我倒是覺得現在的風格很貼近他們,人也是會成長,
只是他們的成長更體現在他們的音樂裡,我倒覺得他們做出來的音樂防彈風格越來越強烈,越來越有種這歌只有我們能駕馭 哈哈
每次我看別團cover防彈都沒有到味,該說是音樂人本身沒有投入在裏頭很難讓人感受到共鳴,這也是我非常喜歡看防彈Cover的所有作品(包含舞臺)的原因之一
Ceci的英文寫作比中文更到肉,寫得好全面呀!好奇下,咁妳平常寫這類題材blog時是用英譯中還是直接用中文思考然後寫架?換轉係我,應該寫唔到亦譯唔出,哈哈!^^”
回覆刪除雖然我對防彈或韓星依然不太認識,但還是很欣賞他們的努力和態度,真的跟香港許多藝人很不同呀!
哈哈,你實在誇獎了,其實我中英文都寫得不夠好,都有好多careless mistakes,中文就會有錯別字,或者打字太心急選擇連結字,英文就無可避免會有啲小的文法錯誤,所以我都會時常回看舊文章,因為有可以會搵到錯誤要修改。
刪除不過我可以好清楚話你知,我從來不翻譯。用翻譯方法(無論講或寫),好難做到流利(fluent)水平,唯有用那種語言直接嚟思考,然後寫出嚟,至會自然。其實對於我嚟講,寫英文可能比中文易(講都係),因為英文書寫語同講出口係一樣。但中文(我哋廣東人)就唔一樣,可以話要做少少翻譯,變成書寫語,所以某程度上,書寫中文難啲。我亦會界定我中英文都是native水平(不會只係話自己英文fluent),因為可能我英文(講/寫)都好過中文,而且懂得嘅英文詞彙可能更多)。
亦都係因為咁,我去到美國開始寫blog決定用書面中文寫,因為唔想少於練習而愈來愈差。依家返到香港多咗機會講/寫中文,希望搵到工後會更多機會用中文,提升翻啲水平(我以前寫中文都好好架,不過無寫10年退步好大)。
而家我寫blog,開始先直接轉為國語channel,至寫出來,可能你都會睇得出嚟(香港書面語跟大陸台灣書面語有啲唔一樣)。呢度愈來愈多國語人讀者,所以轉做國語腦然後直接寫出嚟,可能方便佢哋多啲,少啲誤會或解釋。
謝謝Ceci以英文寫了這麼一大篇介紹防彈的文章,讓更多對防彈和阿米感到好奇或懷疑的外國媒體或網友能更進一步了解他們,很多點都是Ceci以前的文章提過的,這篇像是英文版總整理,很謝謝Ceci的分享。
回覆刪除防彈和阿米一同成長的正能量是無限大的,對於未來能和防彈走過怎樣的人生旅程,真的很令人期待!
是的,有些要點都是之前在這裡提過的,亦有是新增的,不過因為是一次過向英語讀者作介紹,就整合大部份我想到在內,其實還有很多其他要點的,不過文章太長,一般人就沒興趣看了。
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回覆刪除多謝到訪留言啊。
刪除從來沒有韓團的歌會讓自己一聽想再聽的,偶然間聽到防彈的這首"路"而被圈住,才開始去了解這個團體,他們的許多歌都和我的生活相契合,有感覺且感動,陪伴我度過許多的困境,這是其他團體所沒有的能量。
回覆刪除我自己年紀不一樣,所以沒有他們陪伴我的感覺,不過我很明白年輕一代有這種領會。如果我年輕30年,可能一樣會被他們的作品感動到。
刪除Thanks for your thought-provoking posts and changing my mindset with your articles. As an overseas MArmy, I too feel motivated by the boys everyday. Here’s another article that touched my heart. http://www.flare.com/celebrity/k-pop-mental-health/ Hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend!
回覆刪除Welcome to my blog and thanks for leaving comment.
刪除I'm not so sure about this piece being thought-provoking, but if it could provide some insight to the public/media, or those new to the fandom who don't know much about kpop, or just pop music in general, that would have serve the purpose.
I'm glad the boys give you motivation. I've read the article you mentioned a while back, it's a personal message and it's great that BTS gives her solace and strength to go through her daily life, as that's what the boys always wanted to do, to move people with their music. But personally I do not get (or more precisely don't need) inner strength or comfort from BTS, as I've already went through all those on my own at very young age.
MArmy is a strong force in the fandom among the Asia countries. I hope you all continue to support the boys at your comfortable capacity. Cheers.
每次都期待看到妳新的防彈文章,感覺是真的有人理解防彈在華麗的韓式偶像包裝下,更深層想要傳達的真心。suga提到防彈更大的願望是成為世界上最具影響力的藝人~不刺青也是怕將來可能會擔任某些代言人(雖然我對刺青沒有其他想法)。防彈之所以跨越種族、語言、年齡、性別讓人中毒~就是他們身上有太多正向珍貴的特質,是現在的世代很難看見的!再一次謝謝妳願意在煩忙的工作之餘,帶領阿米們窺見防彈真正的價值,正因爲妳對防彈的支持,也是因爲防彈孩子值得讓阿米們自發性去爲他們努力!
回覆刪除(PS:妳用防彈七子來形容真的很有創意啊!讓我每次都一直想到全真七子~)
可能是韓國及日本,仍有不少老一輩,將刺青等同有黑幫背景有關吧。不過在韓國,已有不少人覺得男性穿耳,已經不是正經人。
刪除我一向不覺得偶像有什麼了不起,都是人一個,沒有什麼華麗不華麗。我自己本身對名人沒有任何幻想或懼怕,可能因為這樣比較容易用「人對人」的角度看他們吧。
Thanks for typing it up! Looks like a group of good kids doing what's right to the n degrees!
回覆刪除無錯,BTS係好多中年父母親都會喜歡嘅偶像,某程度就係因為佢哋係好勤力又好有真誠嘅good kids.
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